About a week ago, we stumbled upon a 24 year-old graphic designer who goes by the moniker of 57 Even. Unlike a lot of other designers his age (or even those far past his age), 57 Even's work was demonstrating something often sought but less infrequently attained: an empathetic relationship with the client, the product, and the consumer.

Considering his clients are often trying to reach the segment of buyers that he himself is a part of, it could be that this empathy is a basic reaction to his current situation, a natural narcissism that happens to serve him well in his chosen profession. However; whether he's working for HP, MTV, or skate/snowboard companies, one thing seems to stand out about finished product: it talks. And in the desperate quest to find a way to get 18 to twenty-somethings to listen, talking is a compelling quality.

Regardless of the circumstances that add up to the results of his creativity, the fact remains that 57 Even, for a freelancing young gun, offers something that all designers would do well to have. Read on to try, like us, to determine what that is.

Joshspear.com: What led you, initially, to graphic design?

57 Even: Graphic design was something that I realized I was already doing late in high school. I got there through a mix of the fine arts (drawing, painting, sculpture, jewelry making, poetry, graffiti, pottery) and computer-based experiments (HTML, digital imaging, ascii, ansi, web design), forged with an incessant desire to create and an inability to sleep.

JS: You started working on freelance projects when you were only 16- what sort of projects were you working on then, and how has it progressed?

57: Initially it was really roundabout jobs; logos for my parent’s friends businesses, illustrations for various magazine articles. I was even commissioned to do a Winamp skin during the dot com boom – it paid really well, more than I make now.

JS: You do a ton of work in several areas- fashion, illustration, interactive, print, branding/identity- do you have a favorite, and why (or why not)?

57: I prefer solutions which span mediums, where I can brand a campaign and develop all the various extensions. Apparel graphics, if I had to choose, are my ‘favorite' because the t-shirt is the modern canvas. I like to think about how my solutions interact with society and the consumer.

JS: What do you think has been the most important factor in your success so far?

57: The willingness to learn mediums and tackle enormous tasks without any previous experience in various sects. I've done my first bike, snowboard, skateboard, bandana, shoe, toy, catalog, playing card, dvd, digipac, fashion
line, product line and racing jersey in the last two years. It's about finding a solution that is appropriate for the market. Whether it has been done before becomes completely secondary and you can really refine things when you have a fresh perspective. A lot of companies come to me because they're stuck in a rut, either conceptually or artistically, I help my clients develop both aesthetic and theoretical approaches so the consumer can have a complete experience with the brand.

JS: This is maybe a risky question to ask… but in your opinion, what do the young designers today have that gives them an edge on the older designers (and vice versa)?

57: Not to assume I can sum this up in it's entirety, but there are two factors we must consider: 1) Their immaturity. The same reason artists take breaks from paintings, so they can return with a critical eye to the then unfamiliar forms. 2) Designers today can do anything, instantly. I've worked with a lot of slightly older creatives who had to hand set, press-on type. I spend that same amount of time creating 4-5 hand kerned digital pieces, combining advanced and traditional media. Technology has provided the modernmulti-tool designer with an independent, international publishing platform, allowing us to define ourselves with a few clicks of the mouse. I get emails from China at 2AM, Denmark at 4AM — it's incredible to wake up and imagine what's in my inbox.

JS: Have any scary, to-the-last-second deadline stories?

57: Every deadline. Not really, but I tweak things even when saving them for final output- an inability on my part to ever be completely done with a piece. It comes down to what's really important for the media. I can tweak highlights for two hours but if it is for newsprint, the dot gain will ruin the contrast anyway. Last week I booted my computer up and the hard drive didn't turn on. My heart sank; everything I've ever done, over 400GB, gone. Sure, I have backups of various points, but nothing recent. I restarted and everything came right up, so I backed it up immediately. You just have to be ok with letting digital things go and remember it's provided you with the ability to do even better.

JS: What’s your favorite thing coming out of the design/art world right now?

57: Anything eighties. I have a huge hang up with that time period — I love every idiosyncratic, tear-wrenching color combo.

JS: What are you doing when you’re not designing?

57: Reading, searching for the right high speed mash-up, blogging, bmxing, drawing, or socializing. Eating, drinking, all the Freudian stuff. I tend to never stop designing, but it's something I am trying to work on, for my girlfriend's sake.

JS: I get the feeling that you’re a bit of a sneakerhead. What are you feeling this season?

57: Outrageous and unthinkable material, pattern, and color combinations. Marty McFly status high-tops with the tongues out, icey soles, lasered, color-depth leather, neon croc skin and horse hair. “Have your Grandma thinking you've lost your mind” type kicks. With 18K gold lace lock; good, old fashioned decadence.

JS: Are you hoping to become more heavily involved in the sneaker industry in the future?

57: Most definitely — I've been working on some shoe designs for various clients and I hope to handle a full production release soon. I've done a lot of research on the industry and its consumers and am really ready to kick some doors in. The down side is the expensive sneaker habit I developed in working for Sole Collector magazine on several projects.

JS: Speaking of the future — what’s next for you?

57: Thankfully, I cannot say specifically. People are calling from countries and companies I hadn't even dreamt of a year back. Five months ago I went completely freelance and hope to expand my clientele as we move into my first year of independence. I am shopping some home décor ideas around, as well as fashion lines. We'll see what happens.

Thanks for the interview.


bernard sumner Monday, 11.05.07 @ 2:46 pm

hmm. does this kid have any training in thinking through design problems rather than just making shit messy-pretty, or would he just point to that as something for “older creatives”? does anyone who lived through the shithole of the 80s try and reproduce it? guess what, i have avant garde installed on my system, too, but i have the sense not to use it because it’s a crap typeface.

and js credits him with “empathy”? for what? isn’t anyone else sick of this put-it-all-in-a-blender, make-everything-look-like-an-urban-outfitters-tshirt internationalist bullshit that passes for “design”? context? audience? i thought you guys were smarter than that.

dear mr. spear, please ask your correspondents to stop jizzing on the next hott shit or the smart people making real things will stop reading.


bernard sumner Monday, 11.05.07 @ 3:42 pm

my apologies. to answer my own question above: i just browsed deep enough on 57’s site to see he has an mfa from mcad. so he DOES have training. the question, then, is how does someone graduate from a fine institution without an apparent sense of criticality toward their work? or could it be that the interviewer simply tossed sploogy-softballs at mr. muller?

so, if you’re reading, mr. muller, i pose this question to you: how do you feel about my assertion that you are simply adding more noise to an already homogeneous contemporary visual culture? what specifically distinguishes your work from that of countless others? where are you in your work, beyond deriving color palettes from a decade which ended when you were seven? can you provide specific examples of your work which address the needs of its audience—the “empathy” referred to by ms. hagen?

i don’t mean all of this as vitriol, rather, i want to see more thoughtful debate in this space.


bernard sumner Monday, 11.05.07 @ 11:02 pm

wow. censored for asking actual questions?


onethousandohms Tuesday, 11.06.07 @ 4:56 pm

Wait a second, did the guitarist from New Order just call out a 24 year old graphic designer?


Carmel Wednesday, 11.07.07 @ 6:22 pm

Darling Dusty,
You never know who’s who on these pages.

But to get to the point…

This potentially “thoughtful” debate has a foundation, already, of opinion as opposed to fact. I named Steven “empathetic” because I am the person he wants to talk to, the clients he works for are the ones who want my attention, and the brands he represents are the ones that want my loyalty, and they have it, and therefore, I am empathetic of his empathy. Empathy is understanding, and understanding how to reach me, or “us,” is what Steven does. Well, I might add.

We (18-twenty-somethings) are being spoken to by our own (Steven, a twenty-something); we are listening; we like it. And yes, maybe we are as much a victim of design trends as the rest of the population at any other point in time, but that represents normalcy, not idiocy. I find myself in the abnormal situation- for a 22 year old- of watching these trends from their early beginnings through their mass-production, but their growth, from certain perspectives, signifies success, not “noise.” Some are easier on the eye than others, some are more conceptual than others, but all represent something true within the context of the time in which they reigned (not just “Urban-outfitters-tshirt internationalist bullshit.”

Regardless, if you wish for design to be considered an art form, you must ascribe to it the same respects you award art itself: All design will not be equally regarded; all design will not be equally interpreted by all people; all design will not require the same set of skills used to produce other forms of design. In fact… I’m sort of glad you got do fired up about this interview, Mr Bernard Sumner, because I agree that a lot of design, like a lot of art, is controversial. However, the best way to truly understand that controversy is to put yourself in the place of those who find the art/design UNcontroversial.

In other words, try putting yourself in our shoes (Nike SBs, for the most part- do you have any?), then tell me if you still hate 57 Even.


bernard sumner Thursday, 11.08.07 @ 2:29 am

ms. hagen, thanks for your reply.

it appears from your comments that i’m simply the wrong audience for your publication. i wasn’t aware it was for 18-to-20-somethings exclusively. and, i thought, was for people who appreciate good “design” (though i also note now that “trends” are also given billing).

while the word “good” is always contentious, when i use the word “design” — like most designers worth their salt — i mean (loosely) the targeted solution of a problem, for a specific audience in a specific context, through a unification of form/function/typography/behavior; not simply making something look consumable. i never mentioned the “A”(rt) word, but you have certainly raised the other one: Advertising.

i will agree that mr. muller is exceedingly good at making disposably attractive images (though his style, frankly has been rehashed by design undergrads worldwide for the past, say, five-plus years). if you wish to call him a commercial illustrator, that’s fine with me.

but it’s not design. it solves no greater problem than to make you like it, and thus, buy it. it could have been produced by anyone, anywhere, for any product. making a broad demographic purchase a product is not the bar of success for design. to achieve empathy, you are correct, is a great success for a designer. but this is not empathy, unless you equate who you are and what you feel with what you buy and what you wear.

on that subject, no, i don’t own any nikes { though i am amused that i am engaging in a debate with someone who seems to evaluate the quality of my critique by the kind of shoes i own }. i do, however, have an mfa in graphic design. which of the two criteria, i might ask, makes me a more desirable reader for your blog?


bernard sumner Thursday, 11.08.07 @ 4:15 pm

censored again?


bernard sumner Thursday, 11.08.07 @ 4:16 pm

sorry… didn’t mean to use the “c” word, but i’m puzzled why my comments seem to disappear after a few hours, but reappear when i post again. bug?


Josh Spear Thursday, 11.08.07 @ 4:20 pm

hey bernard. we don’t censor anyone, we just moderate comments so nothing offensive or vulgar gets put up.

go, spray away. we love conflict.

wait, no we don’t.

be nice guys!




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