Although the construction controversy at 123 W. 15th St. in Manhattan touches on so many property rights issues, I’m going to narrow the scope for this week’s Talk Shop Friday post. Valhalla, as the owners the Rath Family has dubbed the building, sits (or is slated to sit) 74 feet high at the intersection of Chelsea and Greenwich Village. The surrounding neighborhood is historic and mostly aesthetically uniform– we’re talking lots of ‘quaint’ Brownstones here. Valhalla at once extravagant and frugal in its design– “an avant-garde take on postmodern impressionist design” incorporating the newest and most efficient green building technologies (e.g. geothermal wells) that will make the building relatively self-sufficient and free to heat. Neighbors of Valhalla are in an uproar, boisterously evoking that “not in my front yard” mentality. Folks, this is a difficult issue. Where do we draw the line between maintaining the historical visual appeal of a neighborhood and innovating our way into the future with sometimes extravagant architectural designs that incorporate energy-efficient green building technologies? Is there a way to do both? All other issues aside (financial, prior tenant eviction, etc.), what do you think?

Background Reading: NYT Article


Rob Friday, 06.22.07 @ 11:51 am

Having grown up around the historical landmarks of the Civil War in the South, I can appreciate historical preservation. However, is there THAT much economic benefit from preserving an ENTIRE neighborhood’s uniformity, especially when the level of consumption in that neighborhood is on the level of nearly any other city?
The consequences of keeping an inefficiently designed aesthetic for historical purposes, on a city-wide scale, just seems to expensive to justify. As nice as it would be, this critical juncture we are at globally doesn’t accomidate this type of preservation.


Adam Friday, 06.22.07 @ 12:14 pm

It seems that with historical preservation, as is the case with almost any building development, it comes down to money. It’s not just property values that people are concerned about. Historical preservation societies employ lots of people and the fees and permits required to alter a historical landmark generate huge revenues for city’s building departments.

I take more offense with projects like this claiming to be Green. They use the word “green” as a maketing tool. Geothermal heating may not be the most enviornmentally friendly way of heating and cooling this building depending on what is involved with drilling and tapping their underground sources. Many times developers advertise things like this before even they know what is involved in actually making it happen. They have good ideas, but poor motivations. They only want to use “green” technologies and materials because they think it will make them more money on the project.


josh Friday, 09.05.08 @ 4:59 pm

I like the thought though. I think if we start challenging each other in the space which exists between absolute aesthetic and absolutely green, we will find more good ideas. It stands as a showcase. However, it looks to be green by using an exorbitant amount of materials in building, which makes one think about how green it is.

My building company tries to find the balance between the two. Nonetheless, at this time in human history one must walk before they can run, and we will never run if we have reservations along the lines of the ones voiced here. This building is one of many heralds for change, and well it should stand out.


McQuay PTAC Guy Tuesday, 03.03.09 @ 2:58 pm

My personal opinion is a building needs to be either completely reworked or built from the ground up to be legitimately called Green. You can make a historic building more efficient, but to make it green would most likely sacrifice it’s historical integrity and value.




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